As some social critics would have it, we do not live in an age of enlightened communication. Being facile in verbal communication is supposedly not as important as being technically proficient. Coarseness seems much more prevalent. A familiarity with the Western canon is not what it used to be.
But I’m not convinced this is empirically true. After all, Victorian England could enjoy the works of Shakespeare, Marlowe and Jonson, but if you had surveyed the residents of England, do you think they sat around reading books or that they regularly attended the theater? Probably not.
The media did used to unspool in a more relaxed fashion. When you look at old movies and television shows, they seem positively glacial in terms of pace, compared to today’s works. It was also quite common to see conversation on television: two people sitting in chairs, just talking about things. I don’t mean an actress plugging her new movie, I’m talking about talking – an actual exchange of ideas.
I’ve been surprised how much I enjoy the podcast for Kevin Pollak’s Chat Show. I like Pollak, but who would have thought that he’s the guy you’d want to see talk to artistic types for over an hour?
Here you can see Pollak talk to director Jason Reitman for the better part of 90 minutes. I also recommend the episodes with Eddie Izzard and Matthew Perry. Pollak has discussed the fact that he’s been offered deals to bring that show to television and he’s refused, because he knows he would have to do the show differently. I think he’s right. It would have to be structured much more tightly for TV, because modern television doesn’t generally do loose.
(You can subscribe to KPCS via iTunes.)
Craig Ferguson does provide examples of the looseness I’m talking about. His show will do a cold open of just Ferguson standing on a stage, sometimes just chatting to the camera. Sometimes you just see a hand puppet talking. This week, he did a whole episode without an audience and with only one guest. (The intro is embedded below; then you can follow the links to the other parts.)
I mention this program because it serves to provide proof that this sort of thing doesn’t happen all that often on television these days, whether on broadcast or cable TV. It could be done; it’s cheap enough fare. But I’m not sure that any networks think that viewers will enjoy sight and sound of people talking at length, no matter how interesting they are.
But I do…
Fans of the late, great John M. Higgins may be the proud possessor of one of his Christmas mixes. See